Stuck the inner primary on to see how it looks....
The 2Loose 1959 Harley Davidson FL 93 ci "Sidewinder" Project
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Fitting the S&S 3-5/8" cylinders on....
They require longer studs with an 1-1/4" above the case for the
cylinder base. The studs are so close to the cylinders that special
nuts are required, and all four nuts have to be started with the
cylinders barely started down over the studs, and screw the nuts
down as the cylinders slide down into place, otherwise the nuts will
not go on....
At this point just test fitting the jugs and heads to see if there are
any problems, didn't find any so far....
Now it's startin' to look like a motor....
You can see the nut hitting the bottom fin, even though the nut is
partially screwed onto the stud, but the cylinder is not all the way
down yet. All four have to be evenly screwed on as the cylinder goes
down.
Next step is to test fit the pistons on the rods and in the jugs
without the rings, check the clearances, then file fit the rings, I like to
go for about 0.015" end gap in the rings, then assemble the pistons
and rings and bolt down the jugs....
UPDATE #1 this page:
Got back in the shop and checked the piston fit in the cylinders,
about one thou, and the ring end gap, they were all running between
0.015" and 0.019", so I used 'em as is....
There were no instructions with these rings, one pair were squared
off outside and inside, with no marks, so I don't think it matters
which side up, and I decided to use it as the top ring.
The other pair had a beveled inside and two dots, which I used as
the top side, and installed them as the second ring.
Fitted the rings on the rear piston, fitted it into the bottom of the
cylinder, put a spiral lock in one side, started the pin into the piston,
put it on the rod, put the other spiral lock in, pushed it up into the
cylinder, and bolted down the cylinder with locktite stud lock.
Repeated the process with the front cylinder, now to work on the
heads....
UPDATE #2 this page:
Found the guides and valves, pressed in the guides, now to check the
valve fit against the seats...
UPDATE #3 this page:
Some more parts showed up for this motor, the new valve rockers,
and the new valve covers (dishpans) and D rings....
Of course, I had to open up everything, and see how they all looked
sitting on the heads....
And of course the 'DishPans'....
Ooops, got a problem here, the covers are hitting the rockers....
Now is this going to get worse when the rocker mount studs and
nuts are installed ??
Nope, if the other 15 studs and nuts look like this one, they are lower
than the rocker mount itself, so no problem there....
OK, the Cometic dishpan gaskets I have are 0.045", tried one, then
tried two (0.090"), the covers still hit the rocker brackets...
OK, I've got a pair of stock heads and covers for the '60 FL project,
let's get them out and do a little comparo....
Put one of the new pans on one of the old heads, no problem!
Then I put one of the old pans on one of the new STD heads....
It hits, so the problem is with the new heads/rockers somewhere, not
with the dishpans....
I'm thinking of taking a little material off the top of the rocker boxes,
looking closely at them, it looks like it would not be a structural
problem if I carefully did that !
THE FRAME AND TRANNY:
In the meantime, as I have recently picked up a RevTek early 4 sp
e-start shovelhead tranny with a kicker, and a set of '65 shovelhead
inner and outer primaries, and a tranny mount plate, decided to see
how they fit in the frame...
This frame is an early Paughco shovel style 4 sp swing arm frame.
I wanted plenty of room for the e-start tranny, and did not know
which style of e-start tranny I would be going with, so I set up a jig
and cut loose the swing arm pivots, and welded them back in on the
back side of the frame tubes....
The only down side to this mod is that with the swing arm pivots
now 3" further to the rear, there will be just a little more slack in the
chain as the swing arm moves up and down.
The ebay tranny plate and tranny fit nicely in there....
Here's the '65 inner and outer primaries....
The starter bearing support in the outer primary is quite beefy....
Just for grins, I grabbed my empty '60 FL cases, jugs and heads
and stuck 'em in the frame with the tranny and primary.....
Now to get that '59 motor finished and mounted in this frame....
Motor Update #4:
Got the valve springs and other small parts to set up the heads. and
found a pair of the old style flat D-rings for the dishpans, that I will
put under the pans as spacers to clear the rocker arms.
Also picked up a tool to check the valve travel and any conflicts
between the valves and the pistons, and between the valves
themselves. Having trouble getting the tool to set up properly though,
the dial indicators that came with the tool do not properly index on
top of the valve spring collars, so I am doing something wrong here,
or this is not the correct setup for this motor....
I could grind a relief in the tool to allow the dial indicators to angle
over further so the plunger can touch the valve spring collar. That
degree of angularity would make the readings very inaccurate though.
These dial indicators really need to be mounted so that they parallel
the valve movement in order to get an accurate measurement....
Finally figured out how to attach these little copper pieces to the tips
of the dial indicator plungers, to get the readings I want on valve
travel and overlap....
The TDC valve lifts are 0.198" intake, and 0.186" exhaust. Set up the
gages and dialed in the .186 exhaust, and the intake valve hit it at
0.155". Got some work to do here....
Just for grins, backed off both valve adjustors until the dial
indicators read 0.150", and "snuck up" on it a little at a time, until
the valves were touching at 0.160"
Since we're going in a counter clockwise direction, read the red letters
as the valves open up....
The goal here is to get a minimum of 40 thou between the valves
when the intake is at 0.198" and the exhaust is at 0.186", and I'd be
happier with 50 thou. I've got some options here, like taking a small
amount off the outer edge of each valve, and cutting the valve seats
a small amount to "sink" the valves slightly into the heads, in effect
moving them further apart from each other. Am looking at the
numbers and deciding how I want to do it....
In the meantime, I drew up this graph below. I do a lot better with
visual stuff, and like to draw my cam specs in this way to better "see"
just what the cam is doing. Sometimes if I have the cam profile specs
I'll draw up that graph also....
More later....
Way back at least 30 years ago, I wanted to build a blown Harley
drag bike, and after acquiring an S&S 93" "Sidewinder" big bore,
stroker setup for my basket case '59, and a Jerry Magnuson 80 inch
roots style blower, my racing buddies convinced me I was going to
blow those cherry '59 FL cases apart, so the blower project got
shelved!
Finally getting started on my '59 FL after way too many years, but
it's going together now as a cruiser, and without the blower.....
Cases machined for the new parts, and assembled with new timing
gears, a new Andrews B grind cam, the S&S 4-1/2" flywheels, new
bearings, it's starting to come together....